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I didn't consider Iskinder is such an idiot

Post by DefendTheTruth » 25 Mar 2019, 16:44

Can't he understand what it means, when we say all the roads to power should follow the path of democratic means?

In such a case it simply means, organise your party and formulate your program (political ajenda), present your case to the public, compete in the (free and fair) election and win it to present/implement your program accordingily.

Collecting a manga (mob) and let them clap their hands for him and declare those in power have no mandate (looool) to administer the affairs of the people all at the same venue, is simply incredibile.

This is an affront to a democratic process and the guy is such an idiot to assume that he can claim a power in such a way in today's Ethiopia.



Who is he to give order to the in office what they should do and shouldn't do??

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Re: I didn't consider Iskinder is such an idiot

Post by DefendTheTruth » 25 Mar 2019, 16:59

Iskinder (Eskinder),

betu man new, yebetu wusane ke maleteh befit??

Is that a legally constituted body, before it can claim a valid arbitration or vote? How on earht can some people come together and clap their hands and claim to have legitimate voice to impose their wish on the rest?

If what I heard is true, there are about 10 Million residents in Addis. In the meeting perhaps around 1000s, maximally. So, how on earth, could you come claim in a country that is saying we want to chart a democratic future, make a vote and disseminate it in the internet and the cheap Ethipian media of today as such to claim about your decision? Where did the meeting get its legal status before clapping its hands as a manga? (Ye donkoro terekemoch!).


Shame on you and worse yet you lost your own credibility for the future to make an impact.

Indeed PM is correct when he said, your likes also would aspire to be thrown into prison and get known through that as someone to have spent time in prison as politcal activist.

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Re: I didn't consider Iskinder is such an idiot

Post by DefendTheTruth » 25 Mar 2019, 17:39

present wrote:
25 Mar 2019, 17:29
Hey tplf agame aka defend the bullsh!t,

You are always defending the bullish!t. You are scared of this smart guy. He is out there doing something but look at you hiding in mekele and typing on ER. Kkkk

He is defending his ancesteral lands from the kegna jewarian savages. I see nothing wrong with that

DefendTheTruth wrote:
25 Mar 2019, 16:44
Can't he understand what it means, when we say all the roads to power should follow the path of democratic means?




Who is he to give order to the in office what they should do and shouldn't do??
present,

let me give you one more chance and let you answer this simple question:

betu man new, yebetu wusane ke maleteu befit?

On a meeting the gathering should first claim a status before it could claim about the decisions (resolution) it is going to make in the name of others, in my view. Could you tell me the status of the crowd?

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Re: I didn't consider Iskinder is such an idiot

Post by Ethoash » 25 Mar 2019, 18:18

DDT,

The problem is those mob r under Article 38 they r all underage they cant vote .. that means he is abusing children... anyhow this people r funny they r telling us, the mayor come to power without election and he claim power with underage support without voting conducted ...

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Re: I didn't consider Iskinder is such an idiot

Post by mitmitaye » 25 Mar 2019, 18:29

Defend the truth,

Addis has the right to organize and elect it's own leader. It's on the 'Constitution'. Iskindir Nega & addis abans are simply practicing their rights. What seems to be the problem :roll:

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Re: I didn't consider Iskinder is such an idiot

Post by Abe Abraham » 25 Mar 2019, 18:39

mitmitaye wrote:
25 Mar 2019, 18:29
Defend the truth,

Addis has the right to organize and elect it's own leader. It's on the 'Constitution'. Iskindir Nega & addis abans are simply practicing their rights. What seems to be the problem :roll:
That is not the real issue. Some say in a country divided by the Woyane-designed-kililism you will first need to determine who has the voting right in a particular part of the country before you proceed with elections.

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Re: I didn't consider Iskinder is such an idiot

Post by Ethoash » 25 Mar 2019, 18:46

mitmitaye wrote:
25 Mar 2019, 18:29
Defend the truth,

Addis has the right to organize and elect it's own leader. It's on the 'Constitution'. Iskindir Nega & addis abans are simply practicing their rights. What seems to be the problem :roll:
ልክ እንደወንዝ አንዱ ቂላቂል ሲሄድ ሌላው ቂላቂል ይተካል

1. በመጅመሪያ ምርጫ ስዓት መድረስ አለብት

ምርጫ ሕግ አሉት ፩፰ ዓመት መሙላት አለብህ ለመምረጥ

ምርጫ በጭብጨባ ሊሆን አይችልም በካርድ ነው

ምርጫው ደግሞ ተውዳድሮ ማሽነፍ አለበት

በዝያ ላይ እራሱ መርጦ እራሱ መቁጠር አይችልም አንድ ገለልተኛ ስው መቁጠር አለበት

እስክንድር ያደረገው እድሜያቸው ያለደረሱ ልጆች ሰብስቦ በማስጨብጨብ እራሱ ቆጣሪ በመሆን ፻% እሽንፎ ቁጭ አለ ይህ አግባብ እይደለም ያላጨበጨቡትንም እንደጫበጨቡስ ቆጥሮ እንደሆነ ማን አወቀው።

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Re: I didn't consider Iskinder is such an idiot

Post by Ethoash » 25 Mar 2019, 18:53

present wrote:
25 Mar 2019, 18:42
He already said he is a resident of the city, born and raised. The people are in thousands, man. If you can get that many people supporting your cause then you have a voice.

present

እስክንደር የተውለድው በBeirut ነው, he returned from USA in 1991 so after TPLF victory.. he was hiding in USA during 17 years ... anyhow for sure he have american passport he must return it if he want mayor of AA

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Re: I didn't consider Iskinder is such an idiot

Post by mitmitaye » 25 Mar 2019, 19:03

Addis Abeba, March 22/2019 – National Election Board of Ethiopia (NEBE) said it was hard to outline the exact date to hold the Addis Abeba City Council elections due to delays in parliamentary approval of a revised electoral board establishment bill and lack of full board members of the electoral board, according to state owned Ethiopian Press Agency.

......

In what appeared to be a response to the announcement by “Balderas Council”, the city administration council issued a lengthy statement stating that the current city administration was formed following NEBE’s decision to postpone the city council elections, and in accordance with the city’s revised charter proclamation No. 1094/2018. Proclamation 1094/2018 was revised in July 2018 and was approved by HoPR, replacing proclamation No. 361/2003, which stated the city council is mandated to elect, “among its members, the city mayor and deputy mayor.” Proclamation 1094/2018 revised the previous by adding “the Deputy Mayor shall be appointed either from Member of the Council or from a non-member of the council.” However, critics of the deputy mayor cite the revision of proclamation 362/2003 as case in point to “install” Takele as city’s mayor.

https://addisstandard.com/analysis-amid ... n-unknown/

The Abiy government is clearly and illegally have appointed his old/odf. And also, playing around the laws to stop Addis from electing it's own mayor. Which is their rights! DinQem democracy!!

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Re: I didn't consider Iskinder is such an idiot

Post by sun » 25 Mar 2019, 19:07

DefendTheTruth wrote:
25 Mar 2019, 16:44

Can't he understand what it means, when we say all the roads to power should follow the path of democratic means?

In such a case it simply means, organise your party and formulate your program (political ajenda), present your case to the public, compete in the (free and fair) election and win it to present/implement your program accordingily.

Collecting a manga (mob) and let them clap their hands for him and declare those in power have no mandate (looool) to administer the affairs of the people all at the same venue, is simply incredibile.

This is an affront to a democratic process and the guy is such an idiot to assume that he can claim a power in such a way in today's Ethiopia.



Who is he to give order to the in office what they should do and shouldn't do??
Really? :lol:

In reality he knows best about those paths of democratic means but knowingly subverts it because he may feel that the democratic path it may not offer him any substantial power beans. So he decided to sabotage that democratic means in order to try to create anarchy and complete lawlessness to grab power out side the democratic process using confusions, terrorism, shootings and looting like always. The pathological loser coward does not even seem to understand that he can only access power through the presentation of his agenda to the Ethiopian people and then win or lose his case at the ballot box following the verdict of the people. Even Hitler did not do like him. :mrgreen:

Right now he has been saying in his own words that he has already overthrown the legal government and the rule of law and established his own independent government on his exclusive independent territory. He might have been propped up by the conspiratorial gun smuggling mafia Tamara extremist factions who always love to back stab people in the back from behind and then encouraging the unstable Eskinder to behave unstable, lawless and noisy and then go and get martyred so that the government may get blamed, mass demonstrations take place and agitate the busy government for more actions.

And then again if the government may not bring such anarchists under control in order to establish the rule of law and citizens security the same mafia circles will stand up with clenched fists, make lots of videos out of the issue, repeat those and similar political pornographic videos to blame the government over and over again for not being able to uphold the rule of law even when urban anarchists defy the government orders and disturb peace and security.

This means that they give themselves the opportunity to blame the government for acting as well as also blame the government for not acting too because they want the government to be bogged down to solving petty problems all over the places instead of doing governmental and developmental jobs which may bring all of our people and the Horn out of underdevelopment and out of poverty. 8)

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Re: I didn't consider Iskinder is such an idiot

Post by Abe Abraham » 25 Mar 2019, 19:15

Ethoash wrote:
25 Mar 2019, 18:53
present wrote:
25 Mar 2019, 18:42
He already said he is a resident of the city, born and raised. The people are in thousands, man. If you can get that many people supporting your cause then you have a voice.

present

እስክንደር የተውለድው በBeirut ነው, he returned from USA in 1991 so after TPLF victory.. he was hiding in USA during 17 years ... anyhow for sure he have american passport he must return it if he want mayor of AA
Eskinder Nega (Ge'ez: እስክንድር ነጋ, born c. 1968[1]) is an Ethiopian journalist and blogger who has been jailed seven times by the Ethiopian government on convictions for treason and terrorism.
Nega was born to highly educated parents, his father having done graduate work at Rutgers University and his mother at the American University of Beirut.[3] They eventually divorced and his mother, with whom Nega lived, opened a clinic.[3] Nega attended Sanford School in Addis Ababa.[citation needed] Nega moved to the United States in 1980s where he attended high school,[4] then studied political science and economics at American University.[5][6]

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Re: I didn't consider Iskinder is such an idiot

Post by sun » 25 Mar 2019, 19:34

mitmitaye wrote:
25 Mar 2019, 19:03
Addis Abeba, March 22/2019 – National Election Board of Ethiopia (NEBE) said it was hard to outline the exact date to hold the Addis Abeba City Council elections due to delays in parliamentary approval of a revised electoral board establishment bill and lack of full board members of the electoral board, according to state owned Ethiopian Press Agency.

......

In what appeared to be a response to the announcement by “Balderas Council”, the city administration council issued a lengthy statement stating that the current city administration was formed following NEBE’s decision to postpone the city council elections, and in accordance with the city’s revised charter proclamation No. 1094/2018. Proclamation 1094/2018 was revised in July 2018 and was approved by HoPR, replacing proclamation No. 361/2003, which stated the city council is mandated to elect, “among its members, the city mayor and deputy mayor.” Proclamation 1094/2018 revised the previous by adding “the Deputy Mayor shall be appointed either from Member of the Council or from a non-member of the council.” However, critics of the deputy mayor cite the revision of proclamation 362/2003 as case in point to “install” Takele as city’s mayor.

https://addisstandard.com/analysis-amid ... n-unknown/

The Abiy government is clearly and illegally have appointed his old/odf. And also, playing around the laws to stop Addis from electing it's own mayor. Which is their rights! DinQem democracy!!
Ato Mixmixaa,

Do you understand that the capital city of Tigrai, Makale, is for all of us Ethiopians, but yet it is being administered under the jurisdiction of the Tigrain government.

Similarly, Bahirdar is for all of us Ethiopians, but yet it is under the jurisdiction of the Amhara government administration.

Similarly again, Finfinne is for all of us Ethiopians, but yet it should be under the administration and jurisdiction of the Oromiyya government.

Any Ethiopian can have the right and may choose to go to Bahirdar (Gondar) to live, work, invest and prosper.
Similarly, any Ethiopian can have the right to live in Finfinne, work, invest and prosper freely. :P

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Re: I didn't consider Iskinder is such an idiot

Post by Ethoash » 25 Mar 2019, 19:36

Abe Abraham wrote:
25 Mar 2019, 19:15
Ethoash wrote:
25 Mar 2019, 18:53
Nega was born to highly educated parents, his father having done graduate work at Rutgers University and his mother at the American University of Beirut.[3] They eventually divorced and his mother, with whom Nega lived, opened a clinic.[3] Nega attended Sanford School in Addis Ababa.[citation needed] Nega moved to the United States in 1980s where he attended high school,[4] then studied political science and economics at American University.[5][6]
what is your point Wikipedia, doesnt tell u where he was born . so why r u posting Wikipedia,info .. in fact it is help my point his mama was in Beirut... second he left for USA IN 1980 FOR almost the whole derg time he was in usa that means he have USA PASSPORT now the question is did he return the usa passport and gain Ethiopian passport .. second how on earth Iskinder compere himself for the guy who live all his life in Ethiopia vs the guy who run away from Ethiopia in time of need and come back to claim key of the city..

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Re: I didn't consider Iskinder is such an idiot

Post by mitmitaye » 25 Mar 2019, 19:43

Similarly again, Finfinne is for all of us Ethiopians, but yet it should be under the administration and jurisdiction of the Oromiyya government

Ato sun,

Why?
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Re: I didn't consider Iskinder is such an idiot

Post by sun » 25 Mar 2019, 19:49

mitmitaye wrote:
25 Mar 2019, 19:43
Similarly again, Finfinne is for all of us Ethiopians, but yet it should be under the administration and ]jurisdiction of the Oromiyya government

Ato sun,

Why?
You will find the answer in my previous nice comment. 8)

In reality Eskinder's identity and legibility must necessarily be triple checked by an independent official of the country as well as grant permission or deny permission for holding political rally and running elections with out permission. All of those people who were said to have voted for him needs to be identity checked and approved, votes counted by an independent body and then approved case bay case or disapproved and punished together if illegal and unlawful anarchist events might have taken place. Otherwise it sets very dangerous anarchist precedence in a country where the culture, the rules and procedures, the practices of democracy are at their very infant stage.

If an educated person like Eskinder can run illegal and criminal political mafia business like the early Nazi party in Germany then why shouldn't millions of people do the same and escape unpunished while the country keeps running down to the bottom of the drain? Very sad and very bad!
:mrgreen:
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Re: I didn't consider Iskinder is such an idiot

Post by Abe Abraham » 25 Mar 2019, 19:53

Ethoash wrote:
25 Mar 2019, 19:36
Abe Abraham wrote:
25 Mar 2019, 19:15
Ethoash wrote:
25 Mar 2019, 18:53
Nega was born to highly educated parents, his father having done graduate work at Rutgers University and his mother at the American University of Beirut.[3] They eventually divorced and his mother, with whom Nega lived, opened a clinic.[3] Nega attended Sanford School in Addis Ababa.[citation needed] Nega moved to the United States in 1980s where he attended high school,[4] then studied political science and economics at American University.[5][6]
what is your point Wikipedia, doesnt tell u where he was born . so why r u posting Wikipedia,info .. in fact it is help my point his mama was in Beirut... second he left for USA IN 1980 FOR almost the whole derg time he was in usa that means he have USA PASSPORT now the question is did he return the usa passport and gain Ethiopian passport .. second how on earth Iskinder compere himself for the guy who live all his life in Ethiopia vs the guy who run away from Ethiopia in time of need and come back to claim key of the city..
Your observations are correct.

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Re: I didn't consider Iskinder is such an idiot

Post by mitmitaye » 25 Mar 2019, 19:58

sun wrote:
25 Mar 2019, 19:49
mitmitaye wrote:
25 Mar 2019, 19:43
Similarly again, Finfinne is for all of us Ethiopians, but yet it should be under the administration and ]jurisdiction of the Oromiyya government

Ato sun,

Why?
You will find the answer in my previous nice comment. 8)
You have not explained why suddenly Addis Ababa should be under the administration of oromiya' government. I did not see your explanation on your post. Why don't you try to answer exactly why :roll:

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Re: I didn't consider Iskinder is such an idiot

Post by Ethoash » 25 Mar 2019, 20:02

mitmitaye wrote:
25 Mar 2019, 19:43
Similarly again, Finfinne is for all of us Ethiopians, but yet it should be under the administration and jurisdiction of the Oromiyya government

Ato sun,

Why?
let me be nice to u and answer your question the simple answer is location where addis Ababa located

if someone ask u ባህር ዳር located u will say Amhara
if someone ask u መቀሌ located u will say golden
no body will claim መቀሌ only belong to መቀሌ or Tigray people but they have to administrate it as simple as that

if fact i dont care anymore if Addis Ababba want to take Article 39 from mother land oromia and become an island that will be self defeating because Addis Ababba doesnt produce nothing everything come from Oromia as soon as Addis Ababa declare their regional status or ልዬ እስተዳዳር they have to start paying the full price of all goods and services that come from oromia ...

oromo no longer will be restricted to sale their cattle to addis Ababa if they have good price in Kenya or Djibouti they will be free to sale it their and price in Addis Ababa will increase in five or ten fold ...Addis Ababa will decay soon just like singpoor of Eritrea ...

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Re: I didn't consider Iskinder is such an idiot

Post by mitmitaye » 25 Mar 2019, 20:16

Yergo zimb.. :lol: :lol:

Sorry ethioash, let obbo sun explain his statement.. I don't think Oromos need afe-QelaTe weyane aCHAfaris anymore 😜

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Re: I didn't consider Iskinder is such an idiot

Post by Ethoash » 25 Mar 2019, 20:21

mitmitaye wrote:
25 Mar 2019, 20:16
Yergo zimb.. :lol: :lol:

Sorry ethioash, let obbo sun explain his statement.. I don't think Oromos need afe-QelaTe weyane aCHAfaris anymore 😜
i am more then happy if the Amahra refused the oromo to administrate it and fight started and all tplf built deleted that would teach u forever to say thanks for those who work hard to make Addis Ababa world class city.. anyhow u like it or if u guys start war Tplf will come as peace keeper and will be getting paid for service that time it would cost u billion of dollar

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