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[Sadacha Macca]

''In a certain way the Woyane cannot escape from taking a historical responsibility of causing the war on itself. It was the Woyane that gave Eritrea its independence and created favourable conditions for its growth, making military contributions to Eritrea and paying all sorts of political price for it in Ethiopia. And still the Shabia invaded us! This has caused a deep anger and frustration among the Tigrayans in particular. We know the Eritreans and we know each other (the other Ethiopian groups). We don't need any military assistance from the Amhara, Oromo and other peoples. Tigrayan heroism is sufficient for fighting the Eritreans, whom we know very well in fighting. We are, however, currently facing some unorthodox experiences at the battlefront where non-Tigrayan fighters are captured by the Shabia and surrender voluntarily to them!'

I interrupt him and ask if he means that they (oromo, amhara, etc) are not good fighters and that Tigray can take care of this issue alone. Teame hesitates and rephrases his earlier explanation, accepting that non-Tigrayans can go to the frontline.

'However, we Tigrayans are nearer to the front and we have a profound history of struggle and heroism, thus we only need economical assistance from the others. Otherwise our fighting spirit and cult of heroism is much superior to the Eritreans we don't need the issue to take a national dimension. The issue is very narrow and not too complicated, this we can handle it ourselves,' he states self-confidently, and continues surprisingly by saying: 'Ethiopia can only get peace, liberty and territorial integrity if and only if the Tigrayans and Eritreans are going to war. For Ethiopia to remain in peace the two people have to fight so that the political situation remains intact. Eritrea and Ethiopia can only live in peace if both of us are going to war. Because if we occupy Eritrean territory and continue the war in order to strive for more territory which isn't our, we will be defeated and destroyed. Likewise, if they dare to do the same, they will also face a similar fate,' concludes Teame with a Machiavellian attitude towards power balance and politics.
'Has the relationship always been like this between Eritreans and Tigrayans?' I wonder.
'No, no,' rejects Teame. 'This is due to a political confession we gave them recently. Since we gave them their independence just some years back, this problem is also new, something which as grown out of the current political situation... What is puzzling us and became abnormal for us is the event of this year [i.e. the new war]. Otherwise there is no doubt that we Tigrayans and Eritreans (The Kebessa Highlanders) are one and the same people.''

[Violence and Belonging: The Quest for Identity in Post-colonial Africa
edited by Vigdis Broch-Due, page 249

[Deqi-Arawit]

''In a certain way the Woyane cannot escape from taking a historical responsibility of causing the war on itself. It was the Woyane that gave Eritrea its independence and created favourable conditions for its growth, making military contributions to Eritrea and paying all sorts of political price for it in Ethiopia. And still the Shabia invaded us! This has caused a deep anger and frustration among the Tigrayans in particular. We know the Eritreans and we know each other (the other Ethiopian groups). We don't need any military assistance from the Amhara, Oromo and other peoples. Tigrayan heroism is sufficient for fighting the Eritreans, whom we know very well in fighting. We are, however, currently facing some unorthodox experiences at the battlefront where non-Tigrayan fighters are captured by the Shabia and surrender voluntarily to them!'

I interrupt him and ask if he means that they (oromo, amhara, etc) are not good fighters and that Tigray can take care of this issue alone. Teame hesitates and rephrases his earlier explanation, accepting that non-Tigrayans can go to the frontline.

'However, we Tigrayans are nearer to the front and we have a profound history of struggle and heroism, thus we only need economical assistance from the others. Otherwise our fighting spirit and cult of heroism is much superior to the Eritreans we don't need the issue to take a national dimension. The issue is very narrow and not too complicated, this we can handle it ourselves,' he states self-confidently, and continues surprisingly by saying: 'Ethiopia can only get peace, liberty and territorial integrity if and only if the Tigrayans and Eritreans are going to war. For Ethiopia to remain in peace the two people have to fight so that the political situation remains intact. Eritrea and Ethiopia can only live in peace if both of us are going to war. Because if we occupy Eritrean territory and continue the war in order to strive for more territory which isn't our, we will be defeated and destroyed. Likewise, if they dare to do the same, they will also face a similar fate,' concludes Teame with a Machiavellian attitude towards power balance and politics.
'Has the relationship always been like this between Eritreans and Tigrayans?' I wonder.
'No, no,' rejects Teame. 'This is due to a political confession we gave them recently. Since we gave them their independence just some years back, this problem is also new, something which as grown out of the current political situation... What is puzzling us and became abnormal for us is the event of this year [i.e. the new war]. Otherwise there is no doubt that we Tigrayans and Eritreans (The Kebessa Highlanders) are one and the same people.''

[Violence and Belonging: The Quest for Identity in Post-colonial Africa
edited by Vigdis Broch-Due, page 249

Galla-Boy!
Halaf [deleted] is correct in hi assessment. Tigrians are better warriors than both the Amhara and the Galla. The Galla loves to wave the white flag the minute they face obstacles.

[Sadacha Macca]

''In a certain way the Woyane cannot escape from taking a historical responsibility of causing the war on itself. It was the Woyane that gave Eritrea its independence and created favourable conditions for its growth, making military contributions to Eritrea and paying all sorts of political price for it in Ethiopia. And still the Shabia invaded us! This has caused a deep anger and frustration among the Tigrayans in particular. We know the Eritreans and we know each other (the other Ethiopian groups). We don't need any military assistance from the Amhara, Oromo and other peoples. Tigrayan heroism is sufficient for fighting the Eritreans, whom we know very well in fighting. We are, however, currently facing some unorthodox experiences at the battlefront where non-Tigrayan fighters are captured by the Shabia and surrender voluntarily to them!'

I interrupt him and ask if he means that they (oromo, amhara, etc) are not good fighters and that Tigray can take care of this issue alone. Teame hesitates and rephrases his earlier explanation, accepting that non-Tigrayans can go to the frontline.

'However, we Tigrayans are nearer to the front and we have a profound history of struggle and heroism, thus we only need economical assistance from the others. Otherwise our fighting spirit and cult of heroism is much superior to the Eritreans we don't need the issue to take a national dimension. The issue is very narrow and not too complicated, this we can handle it ourselves,' he states self-confidently, and continues surprisingly by saying: 'Ethiopia can only get peace, liberty and territorial integrity if and only if the Tigrayans and Eritreans are going to war. For Ethiopia to remain in peace the two people have to fight so that the political situation remains intact. Eritrea and Ethiopia can only live in peace if both of us are going to war. Because if we occupy Eritrean territory and continue the war in order to strive for more territory which isn't our, we will be defeated and destroyed. Likewise, if they dare to do the same, they will also face a similar fate,' concludes Teame with a Machiavellian attitude towards power balance and politics.
'Has the relationship always been like this between Eritreans and Tigrayans?' I wonder.
'No, no,' rejects Teame. 'This is due to a political confession we gave them recently. Since we gave them their independence just some years back, this problem is also new, something which as grown out of the current political situation... What is puzzling us and became abnormal for us is the event of this year [i.e. the new war]. Otherwise there is no doubt that we Tigrayans and Eritreans (The Kebessa Highlanders) are one and the same people.''

[Violence and Belonging: The Quest for Identity in Post-colonial Africa
edited by Vigdis Broch-Due, page 249

Galla-Boy!
Halaf [deleted] is correct in hi assessment. Tigrians are better warriors than both the Amhara and the Galla. The Galla loves to wave the white flag the minute they face obstacles.

Deqi arr with no wit,

You have every right to defend your beloved Tigrayan people. I can't be mad at that dude. But the facts say otherwise. If they were better fighters, they'd have more land than the Amaras and us Oromos. Better warriors, for the most part, always conquer and possess more land. Oromos chased your beloved tplf, who was armed to the teeth by the west and the east, barehanded. If Oromo wanted to fight with arms, we'd be in Badme eating Doro wat with Eritrean soldiers, sipping tea. But thats not what we desired.

Good try though my drunkard agame friend.

[Deqi-Arawit]

Deqi arr with no wit,

You have every right to defend your beloved Tigrayan people. I can't be mad at that dude. But the facts say otherwise. If they were better fighters, they'd have more land than the Amaras and us Oromos. Better warriors, for the most part, always conquer and possess more land. Oromos chased your beloved tplf, who was armed to the teeth by the west and the east, barehanded. If Oromo wanted to fight with arms, we'd be in Badme eating Doro wat with Eritrean soldiers, sipping tea. But thats not what we desired.

Good try though my drunkard agame friend.

Galla-boy
There is a difference between leadership and people and the fact that the TPLF caved in for the Qorro demonstrators doesn't meant that the Oromo were great warriors but the leeches were just scared about the reaction of their American masters. The Oromo have been in the bushes to fight for their right to be considered as fully evolved human beings but they were not even capable to liberate a Qebele let alone a country hence this just proves that Oromo are just lousy warrior material. Next time dont say the leeches were chased by Oromo because the leeches just caved in for demonstration. Let's say, the leeches kill all the demonstrators who opposed their rule, Do you think, you would be able to liberate a Qebele?

The Agames are better warriors than Oromo and Amhara but their leadership are terrible. Oromos are only good to use them as cannon fodders while the Amhara are excellent in the propaganda domain.

[TesfaNews]

Sadacha has a point

if agame/tegaru are so good at being warriors wouldn't gonder and wollo be speaking tigrinya by now?

how come tigray is a small baren region that never conquered fertile lands like the Amhara and Oromo did.

Amhara conquered Gondar and Gojjam

Oromo conquered Jimma and Welega

what did Tigray conquer? a few Woredas (Districts)! (through migration due to famine)

you say its because Agame Leadership but thats not true Agames have great leaders like Mikael Sehul, Ras Alula, Yohanes etc so its actually the peoples fault as well because its the people who make the tribe great not the leaders.

when Oromo had one of their worst famine in 1500 they fled Borana and took their goats, cows, donkeys and camels and migrated and conquered vast provinces they would migrate for instance from borana zone to shewa that is 700 kilometers that is equilivelant to a agame migrating and conquering all tribes from mekele to debre berhan in the span of 100 years


It's not who wins the battle you bozo agazian it's who wins the world. Agame self defeated themselves twice first by creating ethnic federalism where by tigray was still a small northern province even though TPLF was in 4kilo the second self defeat was retreating from Debresina back to Maychew. You can be the best warrrior but as long as you don't use your warrior hood in becoming a great tribe and state it's meaningless.

Deqi arr with no wit,

You have every right to defend your beloved Tigrayan people. I can't be mad at that dude. But the facts say otherwise. If they were better fighters, they'd have more land than the Amaras and us Oromos. Better warriors, for the most part, always conquer and possess more land. Oromos chased your beloved tplf, who was armed to the teeth by the west and the east, barehanded. If Oromo wanted to fight with arms, we'd be in Badme eating Doro wat with Eritrean soldiers, sipping tea. But thats not what we desired.

Good try though my drunkard agame friend.

Galla-boy
There is a difference between leadership and people and the fact that the TPLF caved in for the Qorro demonstrators doesn't meant that the Oromo were great warriors but the leeches were just scared about the reaction of their American masters. The Oromo have been in the bushes to fight for their right to be considered as fully evolved human beings but they were not even capable to liberate a Qebele let alone a country hence this just proves that Oromo are just lousy warrior material. Next time dont say the leeches were chased by Oromo because the leeches just caved in for demonstration. Let's say, the leeches kill all the demonstrators who opposed their rule, Do you think, you would be able to liberate a Qebele?

The Agames are better warriors than Oromo and Amhara but their leadership are terrible. Oromos are only good to use them as cannon fodders while the Amhara are excellent in the propaganda domain.

[TesfaNews]

I also forgot to mention Hatse Yohanes and Ras Alula got chased out of Eritrea by the Italians not only that the Italians marched across the mereb in 1896 even going down to Raya Amba Alaje.

It was Menelik of Shewa who stopped the Italians from incorporating Tigray into the Italian empire

The Tigrayans hate Menelik not because he won the battle of adwa for Ethiopia but because Tigrayans liked the Italians for incorporating them into Eritrea Province. Tigrayans hate Menelik and Selassie because they prefered their capital to be in Asmara and not Addis

[Deqi-Arawit]

Sadacha has a point

if agame/tegaru are so good at being warriors wouldn't gonder and wollo be speaking tigrinya by now?

how come tigray is a small baren region that never conquered fertile lands like the Amhara and Oromo did.

Amhara conquered Gondar and Gojjam

Oromo conquered Jimma and Welega

what did Tigray conquer? a few Woredas (Districts)! (through migration due to famine)

you say its because Agame Leadership but thats not true Agames have great leaders like Mikael Sehul, Ras Alula, Yohanes etc so its actually the peoples fault as well because its the people who make the tribe great not the leaders.

when Oromo had one of their worst famine in 1500 they fled Borana and took their goats, cows, donkeys and camels and migrated and conquered vast provinces they would migrate for instance from borana zone to shewa that is 700 kilometers that is equilivelant to a agame migrating and conquering all tribes from mekele to debre berhan in the span of 100 years


It's not who wins the battle you bozo agazian it's who wins the world. Agame self defeated themselves twice first by creating ethnic federalism where by tigray was still a small northern province even though TPLF was in 4kilo the second self defeat was retreating from Debresina back to Maychew. You can be the best warrrior but as long as you don't use your warrior hood in becoming a great tribe and state it's meaningless.

Deqi arr with no wit,

You have every right to defend your beloved Tigrayan people. I can't be mad at that dude. But the facts say otherwise. If they were better fighters, they'd have more land than the Amaras and us Oromos. Better warriors, for the most part, always conquer and possess more land. Oromos chased your beloved tplf, who was armed to the teeth by the west and the east, barehanded. If Oromo wanted to fight with arms, we'd be in Badme eating Doro wat with Eritrean soldiers, sipping tea. But thats not what we desired.

Good try though my drunkard agame friend.

Galla-boy
There is a difference between leadership and people and the fact that the TPLF caved in for the Qorro demonstrators doesn't meant that the Oromo were great warriors but the leeches were just scared about the reaction of their American masters. The Oromo have been in the bushes to fight for their right to be considered as fully evolved human beings but they were not even capable to liberate a Qebele let alone a country hence this just proves that Oromo are just lousy warrior material. Next time dont say the leeches were chased by Oromo because the leeches just caved in for demonstration. Let's say, the leeches kill all the demonstrators who opposed their rule, Do you think, you would be able to liberate a Qebele?

The Agames are better warriors than Oromo and Amhara but their leadership are terrible. Oromos are only good to use them as cannon fodders while the Amhara are excellent in the propaganda domain.

Dumb arse!
You claim amhara conquered Gonder and Gojam, who were the vanquished people who lived in Gonder and Gojam before they were conquered by amhara?

The fact the Tigrians who makes up less than 6% of the population made you dance Eskista at their will for the last 30 years is a testimony enough that they are better warriors than the Galla and Amhara combined.

[TesfaNews]

Everything must be triggered.

TPLF hid itself under EPRDF so that the masses would not rise against them. So in reality there was more Amhara and Oromo working for EPRDF than against EPRDF. This has nothing to do with being a warrior.

EPRDF mask fell off in 2015 when Agazi police were attacking Ethiopian demonstrators that protested against Isis. Once the triggers were made TPLF was getting into a endless revolution by the masses against them so TPLF left 4kilo and went back to Tigray knowing that only Tigray would support them

Gondar is originally Falasha, Gojam Agew both got conquered by the sword and made into Amhara. Just as Oromo conquered the Gafat of Mugar making West Shewa and HoruGudru Oromo... Gurage of Weliso etc etc

Sadacha has a point

if agame/tegaru are so good at being warriors wouldn't gonder and wollo be speaking tigrinya by now?

how come tigray is a small baren region that never conquered fertile lands like the Amhara and Oromo did.

Amhara conquered Gondar and Gojjam

Oromo conquered Jimma and Welega

what did Tigray conquer? a few Woredas (Districts)! (through migration due to famine)

you say its because Agame Leadership but thats not true Agames have great leaders like Mikael Sehul, Ras Alula, Yohanes etc so its actually the peoples fault as well because its the people who make the tribe great not the leaders.

when Oromo had one of their worst famine in 1500 they fled Borana and took their goats, cows, donkeys and camels and migrated and conquered vast provinces they would migrate for instance from borana zone to shewa that is 700 kilometers that is equilivelant to a agame migrating and conquering all tribes from mekele to debre berhan in the span of 100 years


It's not who wins the battle you bozo agazian it's who wins the world. Agame self defeated themselves twice first by creating ethnic federalism where by tigray was still a small northern province even though TPLF was in 4kilo the second self defeat was retreating from Debresina back to Maychew. You can be the best warrrior but as long as you don't use your warrior hood in becoming a great tribe and state it's meaningless.

Deqi arr with no wit,

You have every right to defend your beloved Tigrayan people. I can't be mad at that dude. But the facts say otherwise. If they were better fighters, they'd have more land than the Amaras and us Oromos. Better warriors, for the most part, always conquer and possess more land. Oromos chased your beloved tplf, who was armed to the teeth by the west and the east, barehanded. If Oromo wanted to fight with arms, we'd be in Badme eating Doro wat with Eritrean soldiers, sipping tea. But thats not what we desired.

Good try though my drunkard agame friend.

Galla-boy
There is a difference between leadership and people and the fact that the TPLF caved in for the Qorro demonstrators doesn't meant that the Oromo were great warriors but the leeches were just scared about the reaction of their American masters. The Oromo have been in the bushes to fight for their right to be considered as fully evolved human beings but they were not even capable to liberate a Qebele let alone a country hence this just proves that Oromo are just lousy warrior material. Next time dont say the leeches were chased by Oromo because the leeches just caved in for demonstration. Let's say, the leeches kill all the demonstrators who opposed their rule, Do you think, you would be able to liberate a Qebele?

The Agames are better warriors than Oromo and Amhara but their leadership are terrible. Oromos are only good to use them as cannon fodders while the Amhara are excellent in the propaganda domain.

Dumb arse!
You claim amhara conquered Gonder and Gojam, who were the vanquished people who lived in Gonder and Gojam before they were conquered by amhara?

The fact the Tigrians who makes up less than 6% of the population made you dance Eskista at their will for the last 30 years is a testimony enough that they are better warriors than the Galla and Amhara combined.

[Sadacha Macca]

Deqi arr with no wit,

You have every right to defend your beloved Tigrayan people. I can't be mad at that dude. But the facts say otherwise. If they were better fighters, they'd have more land than the Amaras and us Oromos. Better warriors, for the most part, always conquer and possess more land. Oromos chased your beloved tplf, who was armed to the teeth by the west and the east, barehanded. If Oromo wanted to fight with arms, we'd be in Badme eating Doro wat with Eritrean soldiers, sipping tea. But thats not what we desired.

Good try though my drunkard agame friend.

Galla-boy
There is a difference between leadership and people and the fact that the TPLF caved in for the Qorro demonstrators doesn't meant that the Oromo were great warriors but the leeches were just scared about the reaction of their American masters. The Oromo have been in the bushes to fight for their right to be considered as fully evolved human beings but they were not even capable to liberate a Qebele let alone a country hence this just proves that Oromo are just lousy warrior material. Next time dont say the leeches were chased by Oromo because the leeches just caved in for demonstration. Let's say, the leeches kill all the demonstrators who opposed their rule, Do you think, you would be able to liberate a Qebele?

The Agames are better warriors than Oromo and Amhara but their leadership are terrible. Oromos are only good to use them as cannon fodders while the Amhara are excellent in the propaganda domain.

Deqi arr with no wit,

The more you post, the more you expose the fact that your brain is under-developed and that you get on here, drunk and rant, as fed up said ''smirnoff deqi.''
TPLF had no choice but to cave, because the Oromo have the power to break or make Ethiopia, the tplf lacked this power, seeing as how they're from the periphery in the north and not from the center as the Oromos are.
You can make a million excuses if you wish, to vindicate your tigrayan cousins, I get it, you're biased and defending your kin; and rightfully so.
Halafi, Pastor Degnet and others, would be very proud of you son.
The protests were enough to bring the countries economy to its knees, not to mention that the same Oromo that the TPLF depended on to rule Oromia with them, were no longer there; the same way that the Amara wing of the EPRDF wasn't in Amara region, and without those two EPRDF wings-Oromo fi Amara, the TPLF simply lacked the power and strength to rule any longer.
Once again, if the agames were better warriors, they'd have more land, because better warriors conquer better and more land, 9 times out of 10.
Look at the warrior races of the Horn and the large amounts of land they have: Somali #1, Oromo #2, Afar #3 (their land's in djibouti, ethiopia and eritrea. Meanwhile, the agames have less land and depend more on the other more resource rich lands of Ethiopia for food, work, etc.