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ወደ አክሱም የሰጠችን ያልተማከለ የመንግስት አወቃር እንመለስ። ለፋኖም፤ ለኢትዮጵያም ካለችበት አዙሪት ልትወጣ ከፈለግን፤ ሌላ መንገድ የለውም። - ፕሮፌሰር መሳይ ከበደ

Post by sarcasm » 02 Dec 2024, 19:02

ወደ አክሱም የሰጠችን ያልተማከለ የመንግስት አወቃር [what we call federalism nowadays] እንመለስ። ለፋኖም፤ ለኢትዮጵያም ካለችበት አዙሪት ልትወጣ ከፈለግን፤ ሌላ መንገድ የለውም። - ፕሮፌሰር መሳይ ከበደ


"Autonomy መስጠት፤ decentralize ማድረግ ለሚነሱ ቅሬታዎች መፍትሄ የሚሰጥ ስለ ሆነ።

የአቢይ ጦርነቶች በሙሉ ፍጹማዊ ስልጣን (Absolute power) ለማግኘት ነው። መጀመርያ ትግራይ የሚነሳበት መሰለው፤ ወያኔን አገድላለሁ ብሎ ጦርነት ከፈተ። ከዛ ደግሞ አማራ ሊነሳብኝ ነው አለ፤ ጦርነት ከፈተ። ሌላ ኤርትራ ውስጥም አያሰበ ነው።

ማእከላዊ መንግስት የንጉስ ንጉስ ሲሆን፤ እታች ያሉት ንጉስ መሆን አለባቸው። ይሄ ከድሮ የወረስነው ነገር ብንከተል፤ ጥሩ ትምህርት እንወስዳለን ከዛ።" ፕሮፌሰር መሳይ ከበደ





sarcasm wrote:
24 Oct 2022, 20:27


The Neguse Negest system is an organic federalist system devised by Ancient Tigrayans in Axum. The core foundations of the system are respect for autonomy, self-rule and differences. Hence, the Abyssinia / Ethiopian Empire has always been a federalist arrangement.

The Neguse Negest system is a federalist system where the Neguses have autonomy on their territories and pay taxes to the Neguse Negest (federal government). The Neguse Negest looks after common defense and international relations. Actually, it looks like it was HSI who ended the federalist system when he fired the Neguses but still kept the Neguse Negest title. He introduced a centralized state system into a country that has always been a federalist structure. Mengistu continued the madness of unitary state which resulted in Eritrea's independence.

The Isaias, Abiy & Amhara Elite / fake 'Ethiopianist' alliance have plunged the country into another bloody war after 30 years in order to re-install a centralized / unitary state system and end the existing Constitutional Federalism. Tigray has single-handedly defeated the Alliance and forced PM Abiy & his PP to commit to keep Constitutional Federalism.

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Re: ወደ አክሱም የሰጠችን ያልተማከለ የመንግስት አወቃር እንመለስ። ለፋኖም፤ ለኢትዮጵያም ካለችበት አዙሪት ልትወጣ ከፈለግን፤ ሌላ መንገድ የለውም። - ፕሮፌሰር መሳይ ከበደ

Post by Abere » 02 Dec 2024, 20:57

ይኸ የዴርግ ኢሰፓ ዘመን ምን አለበት አርፎ ቢቀመጥ? ዕድሜውን በሙሉ በስህተት የጨረሰ አሁን ከእርሱ ምክር ማን ይጠብቃል? ሰው 1 ጊዜ ይሳሳታል ቢበዛ 2 ጊዜ - የኢህአፓ፤ ኢሰፓ'፥ መኢሶን ወዘተ ዘመን ካድሬዎች በስህተት አዙሪት ታክተው ታክተው ይቀራሉ። የ1960ዎቹ ፍሬ የመከራ ፍሬ ነው። እንደ እሥስት ወያኔ ይሆናሉ፤ ኦነግ ይሆናል፤ ሌላ ሌላ ይሆናሉ ስራ ሳይሆን አውርተው መኖር ነው። ይህ ሰውዬ የኢትዮጵያን ሰው ይቅርታ ጠይቆ ነበር - - ተሳስቻለሁ አብይን በመደገፌ -ሙሴዬ በማለቴ እንዳላለ ከአንድ የሰሜን ሸዋ ገበሬ ( በጣቱ ከሚፈርም አፈር ገፊ) ያነሰ ግንዛቤ የነበረው - ለስሙ የምዕራባዊያን ኪታብ ተሸክሞ ፕሮፌሰር ይባላል። አይ! የኢትዮጵያ ምሁር - በገበሬ የተበለጠ አነብናቢ።
ቀጥሎ ደግሞ ወደ ድንጋይ ዘመን እንመለስ ይል ይሆናል።

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Re: ወደ አክሱም የሰጠችን ያልተማከለ የመንግስት አወቃር እንመለስ። ለፋኖም፤ ለኢትዮጵያም ካለችበት አዙሪት ልትወጣ ከፈለግን፤ ሌላ መንገድ የለውም። - ፕሮፌሰር መሳይ ከበደ

Post by Axumezana » 03 Dec 2024, 02:40

Establishment of a “Federated/Confederated Ethiopia” with Axum as a capital city.

- As a transition, keep existing Federal Ethiopia as is with Tigray one of the Federal states, but move the seat of the federal government to Mekelle immediately.

- Transform Ethiopia to hybrid Federated/Confederated structure within 5 years with its capital city in Axum as follows:

- By allowing the existing bigger federal states (e.g., Oromia, Amhara and Somalia) to be sovereign, after referendum as per the existing constitution, and willingly integrate them under one union (Confederated Ethiopia modeled after the European Union, to the extent it is relevant), establishing new Kimant and Agew federal states, and keep other existing federal states (Tigray as is, forming a hybrid of Federated/Confederated/ Ethiopia. Thinking only about the independence of Tigray and ignoring the rest of Ethiopia is same as throwing the baby with the bathwater and TPLF must lead and allocate the required resources for the formation of the new Ethiopia. The Confederated Ethiopia could progressively include willing countries in the Horn of Africa such as Eritrea, Sudan, South Sudan, Somalia, and Djibouti.

- Thirty years ago, TPLF/EPRDF decided to govern Ethiopia from Addis Ababa, Menelik palace. That decision separated TPLF from its home base Tigray, marginalized Tigray from development and we all remember how that worked against TPLF during the Oromia riots. The physical separation of TPLF from its home base also made TPLF weak since it was not replenishing the energy it needed from the Tigray people. Based on the historical role Axum played as a corner stone of Ethiopia and knowing the fact that TPLF has to be always within the Tigray people to be effective in a sustainable manner, it is mandatory that the new Federated/Confederated Ethiopia that will be established under the leadership TPLF to have its head offices established in the historic city of Axum (This is similar to Brussels, the EU has no official Capital but Brussels hosts the official seats of various arms of the European Union). Addis Ababa must be a “Federal State” within the Federated/Confederated Ethiopia and continue as a political, diplomatic, and commercial center and metropolitan diversified city serving all the citizens of the Federated/Confederated Ethiopia in an equitable manner without any special claim by Oromos or Amharas. The capital city for the possible new sovereign Oromia (that may be established and confederated with Ethiopia) to be located out of Addis Ababa.

o Tigray may not declare independence since it can indirectly assure its sovereignty from the Federal Ethiopia. However, Oromia, Amhara, Sidama and Somalia could be allowed to be independent states as per the constitution and willingly confederate with Ethiopia (de facto Tigray). Smaller regions such as Afar, Gambelia, Benishangul-Gumz, Welayta, other Southern people, Agew and Kimant could be part of the Federal States as part of the Hybrid Federal/Confederated Ethiopia anchored in Tigray.

o Tigray will ultimately become the political/democratic, cultural, economic and a technology center of the Horn of Africa within the next 20 to 30 years and the anchor and pillar of the Federated/Confederated Ethiopia. Tigray as the nucleus of the new Ethiopia will always directly or indirectly control the army and will have a MOSSAD like intelligence unit that safeguards Tigrayans and federal Ethiopia interests both in Tigray and elsewhere. The confederation could have a fully integrated & liberalized boundary, economy, monetary policy and common currency & passport and cross utilization and joint development of strategic infrastructure like electric power, multimodal transportation, education, etc. Since Oromos have dream of establishing a sovereign state, Tigray and Oromia could play the leading role in transforming Federal Ethiopia to Federated/Confederated Ethiopia.

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Re: ወደ አክሱም የሰጠችን ያልተማከለ የመንግስት አወቃር እንመለስ። ለፋኖም፤ ለኢትዮጵያም ካለችበት አዙሪት ልትወጣ ከፈለግን፤ ሌላ መንገድ የለውም። - ፕሮፌሰር መሳይ ከበደ

Post by Odie » 03 Dec 2024, 05:00

"Ancient Tigrayans in Axum"

ቅዘናም ወያኔ :lol:

አሁንም ትቀባጥራለህ አለቀቀህም?

በቃ እኮ!

አክሱም ኤምፖየር መች የ ethnic empire ነበረ?
ያኔ መች ትግሬ ነበረ?
It was a melting point for everything.

የምትጠቅሳቸው ምናባውያን ናቸው:: የተግባር ስዎች አይደሉም:: ኢትዮዽያን የሚያተረማምስው ጠብመንጃ የያዘ ነው!!

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Re: ወደ አክሱም የሰጠችን ያልተማከለ የመንግስት አወቃር እንመለስ። ለፋኖም፤ ለኢትዮጵያም ካለችበት አዙሪት ልትወጣ ከፈለግን፤ ሌላ መንገድ የለውም። - ፕሮፌሰር መሳይ ከበደ

Post by Abere » 03 Dec 2024, 09:48

In fact, the Neguse Negast system was more chaotic, disorderly and often ended in bloodshed - in some cases equivalent to ethnic cleansing. For instance, Emperor Yohannes cleansed dozens of Wolo Muslims and Wolo Raya. Likewise, Emperor Tewodros did massacre dozens of Wolo and Shewa people. He is known to have expressed his morning rage by throwing dozens over the Meqdella cliff. The Neguse-Negast system was there as to serve individuals not to address the right of the mass. Ordinary citizens were treated as if their belongings - referred to as subjects. The mutiny and feud among power hungry lords caused untold devastation.

The theory there was decentralization during the long past was totally false - it simply came from the usual Ethiopian lust to create glory of the past - existent or non-existent. I am pretty sure any academic study would validate this. There were war more lords in the past - a rebel or war lord call himself a king. There were more self-made kings out of rebel"Shifta" and ordinary people did not question that - as long as that war lord hypothetically claims his power derived from Divine.

The bottom-line, people in the past just like today never empowered - they were sheepishly subject in the past and as they are now. People with deep past history of saying "በንጉስ አምላክ" to complain against unjust act still believe a leader owns them as his/her object. For instance, the so-called highly educated Ethiopians were the first to call Abiy Ahmed as their Moses - including Prof. Mesay. He did not question power emanates from the grassroots people.

This guy, Prof. Messay, is coming out to play and act like Woyane or OLF. His hidden propaganda is Fano will take over power and establish Amhara government. He sounds more like those hiddenly anti-Amhara elites like most of Ginbot 7 now serving Abiy Ahmed OLF. Given this the 1960s people share Derg/Woyane/OLF/etc. ተራማጅ they have an over all negativity toward Amhara. While Fano, never said it would establish only Amhara system, anti-Amhara mouth-pieces are fanning too much - just to stop Amhara people fight for freedom.

I hate to watch charlatan people.



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